PS. I DONT AGREE WITH MOST OF THE BIBLE BASHING IN THIS PREFACE TO THE REVISED STANDARD VERSION BUT I WANT TO POST THIS SO PEOPLE CAN SEE WHAT THE RSV PUBLISHERS BELIEVE.
D.A Carsen said in 1979 in the book “The King James Version Debate” that “The ante-Nicene fathers unambigously cited every text type except the Byzantine.
This is not true and its a blatant lie. There are many Byzantine text type quotes by the “early church fathers”.
The lies continue even today as many people quote and use what he said as fact.
The genocide continues. We have reports of another farmer that got attacked last night on his farm in Heilbron. When he arrived last night at his gate to open it while driving to his house he got attacked by men who then shoved a petrol bome in his bakkie’s window.
He sustained serious burn wounds and is now recovering in hospital.
After they attacked him he tried to get out the car but they then set him alight and tried to stab him. They poured more petrol on him but luckily he managed to escape.
This is obviously an attempted murder, nothing was stolen and as usual these savages just try to kill.
Safe country? Yeah right. This comes just one week after an entire family got executed in Griekwastad in the Northern Cape. Even the 14 year old girl was shot.
There are loads of reasons I personally stick to the KJV. Sure people can claim errors upon error but usually they dont inspect things as one should.
But lets say for a moment the KJV is full of error, which off course it is not but just for the moment imagine all those critics actually found something significant, I would still stick to the KJV.
The reason is that if there ever was an error in the KJV it might of been a scribal error, or an error by accident. The new translations however seem to dwell of the path on purpose. Someone is trying to deceive on purpose. With more than 5000 manuscripts that agree with the KJV or the Geneva bible we have to be really arrogant to ignore the scriptures taken out of modern day bibles.
For instance they remove the fact that Jesus is God. Just look at 1 Timothy 3:16.
So, i’d rather sit with a few errors that were made by accident than an entire so called “bible” made to deceive people.
This is my theory if there were to be errors which i believe there are no errors in God’s word because He Himself said that He would preserve His Word.
The Syriac Sinaitic was discovered in Saint Catherine’s Monastary of Mount Sinai ( not the real Mt Sinai). This is also the place where the Codex Sinaiticus was discovered by Constantin von Tischendorf in a bin ready for the fire. A rubbish bin that is. (Codex Sinaiticus not the Syriac Sinaitic).
The Syriac Sinaitic being also discovered in Saint Catherine’s Monastary is a 4th to 5th century manuscript that has 358 pages of scripture. It contains the Gospels only. In 778 the manuscript was overwritten with a biography.
Which agrees most with the Authorized version of the bible? Personally i’d say the Old Latin or the Vetus Latina. First off, the Vetus Latina contains scriptures usually left out by the Peshitta and confirms many New Testament scriptures.
The Vetus Latina is also what most people claim the Waldenses were protecting and that later turned into the first French Olivetan bible which also turned into the Geneva Bible. So we can easily say that the KJV or Geneva Bible had their roots in the Vetus Latina and not so much the Peshitta. I’m not saying the Peshitta is useless or anything but i’d stick with the Vetus Latina for now.
Lets take a closer look at some of the scripture versions of the different bibles. Many people today debate and claim that Paul did not ever refer to Jesus as historical. There are many places in Paul’s writings that one can find him mentioning Jesus as a real person.
One of those is 1 Timothy 3:16. Although new modern bible translations take that part out.
The replacement of GOD with “Christ” or “He” does not really make sense if put into context because the bible clearly states that GOD was manifested in the flesh.
New International Version (©1984)
Beyond all question, the mystery of godliness is great: He appeared in a body, was vindicated by the Spirit, was seen by angels, was preached among the nations, was believed on in the world, was taken up in glory.
New Living Translation (©2007)
Without question, this is the great mystery of our faith: Christ was revealed in a human body and vindicated by the Spirit. He was seen by angels and announced to the nations. He was believed in throughout the world and taken to heaven in glory.
English Standard Version (©2001)
Great indeed, we confess, is the mystery of godliness: He was manifested in the flesh, vindicated by the Spirit, seen by angels, proclaimed among the nations, believed on in the world, taken up in glory.
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
By common confession, great is the mystery of godliness: He who was revealed in the flesh, Was vindicated in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Proclaimed among the nations, Believed on in the world, Taken up in glory.
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
International Standard Version (©2008)
By common confession, the secret of our godly worship is great: In flesh was he revealed to sight, kept righteous by the Spirit’s might, adored by angels singing. To nations was he manifest, believing souls found peace and rest, our Lord in heaven reigning!
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
And this Mystery of Righteousness is truly great, which was revealed in the flesh and was justified in The Spirit; He appeared to Angels and was preached among the Gentiles; He was trusted in the world and he ascended into glory.
GOD’S WORD® Translation (©1995)
The mystery that gives us our reverence for God is acknowledged to be great: He appeared in his human nature, was approved by the Spirit, was seen by angels, was announced throughout the nations, was believed in the world, and was taken to heaven in glory.
King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
And without doubt great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
American King James Version
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached to the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
American Standard Version
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness; He who was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the spirit, Seen of angels, Preached among the nations, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory.
And evidently great is the mystery of godliness, which was manifested in the flesh, was justified in the spirit, appeared unto angels, hath been preached unto the Gentiles, is believed in the world, is taken up in glory.
Darby Bible Translation
And confessedly the mystery of piety is great. God has been manifested in flesh, has been justified in the Spirit, has appeared to angels, has been preached among the nations, has been believed on in the world, has been received up in glory.
English Revised Version
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness; He who was manifested in the flesh, justified in the spirit, seen of angels, preached among the nations, believed on in the world, received up in glory.
Webster’s Bible Translation
And without controversy, great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen by angels, preached to the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Weymouth New Testament
And, beyond controversy, great is the mystery of our religion– that Christ appeared in human form, and His claims justified by the Spirit, was seen by angels and proclaimed among Gentile nations, was believed on in the world, and received up again into glory.
World English Bible
Without controversy, the mystery of godliness is great: God was revealed in the flesh, justified in the spirit, seen by angels, preached among the nations, believed on in the world, and received up in glory.
Young’s Literal Translation
and, confessedly, great is the secret of piety — God was manifested in flesh, declared righteous in spirit, seen by messengers, preached among nations, believed on in the world, taken up in glory!
Why do they even need a embassy? It not like anyone wants to go there apart from helping the people in concentration camps. Today i learned about camp 22. North Korea’s biggest camp. Do a bit of research.
Here is the embassy address:North Korea Embassy , South Africa
958 Waterpoort Street
PO Box 1238
Here is the Complete Jewish Bible’s version of Genesis 1:1-5
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was unformed and void, darkness was on the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God hovered over the surface of the water. 3 Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. So there was evening, and there was morning, one day.
Now lets look at the King James Bible or Authorized version clearly stating that it was “the first day”:
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, andvoid; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3 And God said , Let there be light: and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, thatit was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and thedarkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day
See my point? The KJV clearly makes us to know that it was THE first day whereas the Complete Jewish Bible just says “one day” not “the first day”. This clearly promotes evolution.
There are thousands of manuscripts. It sometimes is hard to go through them to figure out what is part of which. Here is according to WIKIPEDIA the list of Vetus Latina manuscripts:
The Vetus Latina is the Latin version of the bible, probably the oldest form of the New Testament. It was known as the Latin Vulgate because it was the most commonly used bible. Then in 382 Jerome under the order of the Pope compiled a new version by taking many of the Vetus Latina manuscripts or writings and combining them into one book.
The two are totally different in doctrine as far as I know. The Vetus Latina carried on because most people of the time rejected the Latin Vulgate of Jerome and sticked with the Vetus Latina. This is said to be the source of bible translations such as the King James Bible, the original line started at the Vetus Latina.
Some people claim that the line of the KJV started with the Peshitta, i believe it started with the Vetus Latina. The earliest complete Peshitta is 5th Century where as many Vetus Latina Manuscripts are way older.
The Vetus Latina was written in new latin not in what is known as “old latin”.
If someone has better evidence than the above please comment.